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. >> president's number one vulnerability, is it the deficit conversation? >> i think that there isn't really -- the president has done a very good job in colorado of pointing out the things he has done. agricultural exports are up largely because of new markets opening. overall exports are up. 38% by the end of last year. our economy has seen a lot of benefit. issues around the stimulus sometimes people bring that up. colorado voters are more in tune with that. there is although i think there is also some of the background issues that have risen in. women's issues -- >> i want to bring that up. is that romney's number one issue? i have seen a lot of advertising specifically targeted women here in colorado. >> when michael bennett was running for the u.s. senate those women issues came up again and again and really did turn a great number of voters in the direction of michael bennett. >> i know you are having a fight between the state and localities having to do with fracking and you want to expand energy. it sounds like romney would be on your side on some of these things and the stereotype
a record deficit when he came into office. >> does it work to keep talking about what happened before? >> only to put in context of where he wants to take the country. we were handed a record debt. record deficit when we walked in because of two wars that weren't paid for, two tax cuts that weren't paid for. because of the economic crisis we had to take emergency action. he would do that same thing today. we saved millions of american families from the severe -- most severe economic crisis we've seen in our life times. now the president cut a trillion dollars and he has a plan to do more, a $4 trillion deficit reduction plan. the only person on that stage tonight with a real deficit reduction plan scored by the cbo, you know, scored by independent economists is barack obama. mitt romney, doesn't have a deficit reduction plan. he wants to spend $2 trillion more in defense, $5 trillion more in a tax cut won't tell us how you pay for, before you even start talking about deficit reduction. it's a joke to think mitt romney will actually take action to redaus the deficit. >> taxes, this wee
the math work on his deficit plan and his tax plan. are we going to get those details in the course of the debate? >> well, you know, david, i wish you guys were just as tough on the president. the president says he's going to create a million new manufacturing jobs. he doesn't say how. he says he's going to reduce the long-term debt and deficit by $4 trillion. doesn't say how he's going to do it. let's be fair here. governor romney has laid out a direction and a vision for the direction of this country. he's not an accountant. he is not going to go line-by-line through the budget. but let's hold the president to the same standard and criticize him as well, because how does he create a million new manufacturing jobs, david? he hasn't told anybody the specifics of that. how will he reduce $4 trillion in debt? we're still waiting to hear what he thinks about simpson-bowles, which he commissioned. he's been the president and hasn't given us specifics. so let's be fair here. >> so that's really the approach then? you're a former prosecutor. you understand how the courtroom works. mitt r
beating a drum about the deficit which is important but when you look at the concerns of american, let's look at the top five concerns. one, the economy. two, jobs. three, health care. four, education. five was the budget deficit. so no one's minimizing the importance of the deficit but there really is not a program that deals with the other four and they are using extreme measures and cutting up various entitlements and americans that want to deal with the deficit. >> i think what happened in 2010 and democrats in a way allowed this to happen is that the republicans succeeded in making the deficit a central issue and a stand in for people's economic worries across the board. >> right. >> i think now it's much clearer to people that these two things are related but they are quite separate and there are moments when balancing the budget or cutting spending on things like schools and public safety can actually make unemployment worse. i think something else important has happened, which is the health care law was very unpopular on election day back then. the health care law is gaining gr
with voters. he's got that going for him. who knows, it might help make inroads with that 9% deficit romney is facing against the president in the latest ohio poll. then again, there may not be enough time to do enough shots with enough intoxicated fans before voting starts in ohio tomorrow. so if his running mate is no use, how about a boost from the other person mitt's proposed to, his wife, ann. surely she can provide the comfort and confidence that mr. romney needs to fire up his bid for the presidency. >> my biggest concern obviously would just be for the -- his mental well-being. >> wait? what? mrs. romney, that's not helping. you better finish the thought. >> i have all the confidence in the world in his ability, in his decisiveness, in his leadership skills, in his understanding of the economy, in his understanding of what's missing right now in the economy, you know, the pieces that are missing to get this jump started. so for me i think it would be the emotional part of it. >> right. he's capable, decisive, and emotionally troubled? well, that is an october surprise. let's get rig
of the romney plan to cut taxes but not blow up the deficit. >>> and no animals were harmed in the making of this video. skater dude meet deer. that clip later in the show. first to the news live at 5:30 a.m. at 30 rock in new york city. >>> we begin with stories from overseas where foreign policy is coming out as the central topic in the election with much of the recent focus on the attack on bengahzi, libya. romney advisers are split on how broadly they should hit the president over his handling of the attack and why it took so long to acknowledge it was an act of terrorism. some romney advisers to keep the focus on the economy, some are saying romney should have a major foreign policy speech days after the debate. over the weekend, the white house was on the defensive after the friday's announcement that the deadly assault on the u.s. consulate in bengahzi was deliberate and organized. peter king of new york called on susan rice to resign as u.s. ambassador to the united nations after she initially claimed the attack on the consulate was part of the spontaneous protest after an anti-is
to the same standard as well. >> first of all, we have a deficit plan, it's got health care savings. romney doesn't have a deficit plan. he's got a plan to cut taxes for millionaires and billionaires. he's got a 5 trilli$5 trillion. -- another $2 trillion in defense spending. >> just three days into the first presidential debate, meanwhile mitt romney is off to the trail. we have two reports, we begin with nbc's peter alexander, he's with the romney campaign in boston, with a good morning to you, peter. what are you hearing about all the debate preps today. he o'clock najs that this is an important opportunity in her debate. people have a tendency to focus on the small things, like the color of a candidate's tie or the dramatic one liners, which is his need to get across the big picture message. he says if he does that, he thinks he can be effective over the course of the next three debates and ultimately win this thing. we heard this morning from governor chris christie of new jersey, i want to play you another clip from new jersey this morning. chris christ >> and so they're going start t
for everybody. it's going to be deficit neutral. you say you're going to close loopholes, deal with deductions, so let's talk about those deductions. you know, home mortgage deduction, charitable giving deduction, health care deduction. are you willing to tell the middle class -- >> tax deduction. >> are you willing to tell the middle class some of these are off the table? if you are, how do you pay for it? >> he's not going to. he has bucket, 17 grand. is that not good enough for you? >> that's the problem. if he starts getting specific like that, what the right wants to hear is not what 80% of the country wants to hear. that's the fundamental problem he has. >> the bar is pretty low for mr. romney. how does he get through the 90 minutes without any further problems? very quickly. >> i've been a big fan of the fact that mitt romney is the gift that keeps on giving. listen, if mitt romney doesn't produce a verbal or a physical gaffe tonight, then by and large, i think the republicans will probably say that he won. but, i think that mr. lehrer, a very honest broker, is going to do exactly what
that they're worse off today than they were four years ago, in a new cnbc poll, and a national deficit that will pass the $1 trillion mark tomorrow for the fiscal year for the fourth straight year. conventional wisdom saying that president obama should be losing, but there's a slew of national and swing state polls that show president obama building a small lead against republican rival mitt romney. joining me now, tameka simms, and lynn sweet. good afternoon to both of you ladies. >> hello. >> good afternoon. >> let's take a quick look at the polling here. president obama up by five in a fox news poll, six in a bloomberg poll, three in a politico poll, seven points in a "national journal" poll. why do you think that the president is edging out mitt romney in these polls, when the economic recovery has been so slow? >> well, it's a fairly complicated answer, and a lot of it has to do with voter attitudes towards the economy, less so than voter attitudes toward president obama or mitt romney. in many ways, voters have gotten used to the idea of a poor economy, even a lackluster one. and
to the end. he's not going to have to overcome 8, 9 point deficits to try to get into it. he needs to go out there and communicate in a clear way where he wants to lead the country. what is the alternative vision that he has vis-a-vis the president and he's been unable to communicate that over the entirety of the election. tonight is one of his last chances to start doing it. >> let me give you another scenario and that is that the president has a good night tonight. he gets it up to 51, as you say, and the other guy is going down and very few opportunities left. that would be a bad night for mr. romney. thank you, howard fineman, and steve schmidt. >>> coming up, how will we know who wins tonight's debate? it's not like there is an official scorecard but experts will look at everything. we'll give you an idea of how to look at this thing realtime. >>> and also caught on tape, yesterday "the huffington post" reported paul ryan saying 30% of americans wanted a welfare state and jumped on joe biden as well saying that the middle class has been buried. the running mates are causing some headach
? >> it's been very damaging. we have seen a trade deficit explode. take auto parts. ten years ago, the trade deficit was $1 billion with china on auto parts. today it's $10 billion. that's why the president at the urging of a number of us, they have taken china to the world trade organization to show china is cheating and to ask for tariffs to protect american companies and to protect american workers. and we're seeing a pattern of the government finally on the side of workers, finally on the side of american manufacturing, standing up for american workers against china. we have a new steel mill. we're seeing jobs actually come to this country or stay in this country because we're standing up and enforcing trade rules. >> romney and the republicans keep talking about another tax cut for the job creators. don't we just see them increasing their profits by outsourcing this way? i mean, the model that romney wants to lay on the country, how could it be good for workers in ohio? >> well, it's not. we tried these tax cuts for the rich. hoping it trickles down to the middle class, it do
want to do this with the deficit. i want to do that. it's like the reason i want to do this is because i have a different set of values than republicans. >> what are those values? spell them out. >> using govnment as a coalgrvece protect the safety net and to come together and invest in innovation, education, infrastructure. we're in it together. versus the ryan budgetwhich us aa stand-in first puaninwhsa weonal gid of government and give you a voucher, find medicare on your own. here comes romney and he sort of fits the mold. he's a 1 percenter. he shows no empathy, even before the 47%. >> a pure market guy. >> they use bain, from the beginning, as cynthia noted, as a value. he's out there making money. i'm thinking of wider ames and goals. >> a n bloomberg goathat has president obama leading mitt ey bsix ints natiolly. onbig ason, half of the polls say they have an unfavorable view of mitt romney. bloomberg reports, this is a september high for a presidential challenger in the last three decades. bloomberg quotes a 40-year-old insurance agent from virginia, self-described libertarian
's the question. of course everybody wants a tax cut but if it's not going to cause bigger deficits tell us how you're going to do it and they won't do it. they won't say we're going to get rit of charitable deductions, won't get rid of homeowner, state and local. that's where all the money is. it's not little do dads here. joan, you take this one. he won't tell us. same question comes up wednesday night, can romney dodge ball it? can he say i'm not telling you how i'm going to do the major thing i promised to do, get the economy going through a tax cut but i'm not going to tell you how i'm going to do it. can he get away with it with even the mid-12348. >> i hope not. i think this is a moment for jim lehrerer to be very tough, respectful tough, and for president obama to come back at him and to say, look, i'm happy to see -- your running mate said he didn't have enough time on sunday. that's too bad. that's terrible, in fact. i'm willing to cede, governor romney -- >> could jim lehrer get away with simply saying i have a little liberty here, a little leeway, i will give you all the time it tak
for months with various groups. it's the case he had been on two issues, on handling the deficit, on the economy more broadly and some extent on what making washington work and overcoming partisan paralysis, those are issues he was ahead of obama until recently, and was ahead of obama with female voters until recently. the reason you're seeing that ad right now, the biggest and most troubling change in the polling in the last two weeks has been the shift in the right track/wrong track numbers and concurrently the shift of obama being given the edge over romney on those issues where the only place romney had a lead. they are, you know -- obviously don't want to talk about the issues that are toxic with female voters but must win back some of the suburban female votes on economics, deficit, stuff like that. they see that as an imperative and that's why that ad is out there. >> i don't think you say to your baby to, welcome to america. the first of the ad is so bizarre. hi, honey, welcome to our family. >> welcome to a baby -- welcome to america, baby, you're teething and have $50,0
/romney economic plan which would somehow reduce the deficit or popular deductions. >> you're the master of the budget. so briefly let's go through the plan. the obama plan says independent groups say if you cut those tax rates for everybody 20%, it costs $5 trillion over ten years. true? >> not in the least bit true. look, this just goes to show, if you for tur statics enough, they will confess enough to what you want them to say. >> how much would it cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> i'm not talking about the cut. we'll get to the deductions. but the cut in the tax rates. >> the cut in tax rates is lower all american tax rates by 20%. >> how much does that cost? >> it's revenue neutral. >> it's not revenue neutral unless you take away the deductions. >> that's where i'm going. >> i'm going to get to that in a second. >> lowering the tax base works and you can. >> let me just -- you haven't given me the math. >> look, i don't have the -- it would take me too long to go overall of the math. >> it would take too long to do the math? this isn't a pop quiz. it's a presidential election. eve
-point deficit to the president. six points on the economy? tt rney kha. trouble. and in a brand new ad, one reason is clear, as romney plays face thecamera, doing his best damage control over that 47% video. >> president obama and i both care about poor and middle class e difference is, my policies will make things better for them. >> and, cut. very good. that was marginally convincing. maybe a little more -- tell you what, here's an example of a politici speaking this nuauti an in bowlingreen wit come >> my opponent may think it's fair that someone who makes $20 million a year, like he does, pays a lower rate than a teacher, i disagree. i don't think that's fair. i don't think it helps grow our economy. mi t give up their deductions for owning a home or looking after their kids just to pay for another millionaire's tax cuts. we're not going to do that. >> dear me. diwe mention ohio voting starts in sidays? i'm delht to be joined now by former ohioer t strickland with us from columbus. good afternoon, sir. >> good afternoon. >> governor, there is still plenty of time for mr. romney to make
story about theef and, you know, the fourth straight year of trillion plus deficit, these are things that concern -- >> the american voters. >> and a number that resonates. talk about trillion dollar deficits an every normal person is going to go what are we doing. >> let'se clear about that ad. the ad is a song adut gell candidates do straight to camera ads when they feel like they're in trouble. president obama did his one and only after the welfare ads started to hurt him, you didn't build that, he went straight to camera. romney's ad is a response to the 47% and wha that's doing to h inla iding ohio and to go back to curt's point about why romney is personally beyond the economic numbers, the president has had a problem with white worng-class vote es for a long time. worse in the south than in the industrial midwest but still ther in the industrial midwest. mohe jerry built to be the worst possible candidate to talk to white working-class voters. only one ohio by o point because he was so weak. he has been portrayed by the president and by priories usa very effectively, t anti-ba
tax rates 20%, as you said, keep the budget deficit from getting larger, and protect the middle class from any tax increases. well, look, if you're going to cut taxes and you're going to be revenue neutral about it, that is not increase the budget deficit, that means somebody is going to have to pay more to offset the fact that somebody is paying less. >> and who is going to pay more? >> well, what mitt romney initially said was that we will just -- we'll get that from the top 1%. we'll get that from wealthy folks. well, that's where the arithmetic comes in. if you look at all of the deductions, you sum them all up, every single tax deduction going to those high-end folk, they don't make up the difference. it's not enough to offset the rate cuts. so you'd have to go to the middle class. >> okay. well, ryan and romney are fond of bragging about how they'll be tough on issues. once again we give you the candidate. >> we'll also take medicaid as well as housing and food stamps, we'll take the dollars that are going in those programs, return them to the states where they'll grow at the ra
to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when he put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, bring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the philosophy. >> all politics is local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> thank you, howard. thank you very much for joining us. coming up, claire mccaskill versus todd aiken. it became a good bet for democrats. let's see how it is looking now. claire mccaskill, herself, joins us next. >>> with four judges in the supreme court in their 70s, the next president could dramatically shift the balance of the court to the right or the left. who
now in trying to get reelected, he faces a deficit among women voters of about 12 points. interestingly though, the most politically damaging thing about that awkward introduction to the national political universe might not have been what mr. brown said about his daughters while they tried to make him stop, but what happened right before that. >> scott brown's victory is a shot heard around the world. here he is, the united states senator from massachusetts, scott brown. >> the man who introduced scott brown at his victory party was his dear friend and political ally mitt romney. these days if you went by massachusetts politics, if you only had massachusetts media fed into your home, you'd have no idea that the same guy was running for president. today was the second debate between scott brown and elizabeth warren. two things you'll remember in the first debate. the first the vee mans he attacked elizabeth warren on the basis of race in the first debate saying he could tell by looking at the law professor that she wasn't really native american. that was followed up by tw
mitt romney leads on dealing with the deficit, the economy, while the president leads on a host of issues while looking out for the middle class. do you think joe biden's remarks about the middle class being buried will make the president's job harder tonight? >> the middle class has really suffered as a result of this economic downturn and frankly, president obama knows that. and he has been working to enact policies that will help the middle class. mitt romney's recent remarks about the 47%, he doesn't represent them. they're not going to vote for him. those are the people who have been hurt by this economy and they're the people frankly that president obama and the democrats in congress have been trying to work to help as we begin to come out of this recession. certainly tax cuts for the top 1% of americans are not going to help middle class voters. >> one thing i want to get your take on, looking specifically at your own state, colorado, our latest poll showing president obama with a five-point lead over mitt romney. 5 50-45%. the political landscape there changed since geor
back on track, start creating jobs and attack our deficit. >>'se okth in the midst of mitt romney's 47% fallout, what people found out what he really thought in a room that cost 50,000 bucks to get in the door, tommy thompson tossed blame on romney for his own sliding poll numbers. the guy runninagainst you is amthy ing ains obama. let's watch him in action. >> the presidential thing is bound to have an impact on every election. you know, whether you're a democrat or republican. if you'rstand bearer for the president is not doing well it's going to reflect on the wn boll ballot. >> right now, obama leads romney by seven points in wisconsin. what effect do you think -- when you're traveling every day, working 24 hours a day practically campaigning, your head is around meeting people, remembering names, being nice to peop, and trying to think. the other thing going on the ole me, ey'rtr t thtoe r id how does that get into people's minds, do you think, when they're talking to you? >> yeah, i have to tell you that when people are focusing othe u.s. senate race they're asking themselves a c
, it doesn't have to be this way, okay? we can create jobs, we can deal with the federal deficit, and, yes, we can have a foreign policy where we stabilize these parts of the world if we'll just act in the traditions of bipartisan foreign policy since world war ii. i think that's going to be his basic message. >> in the op-ed there was a phrase used, soft power. i guess what does that mean? what would they have done differently with libya? >> well, here's what should have happened. first, ideally you anticipate the arab spring. if you can't do that, when it happens you set forth a very clear vision of where the region ought to go, in the direction of a constitutional government. you actually get involved in these countries. you learn the elements that want those things. you support them and give them credibility. you identify the elements that don't want those things. you oppose those. you actually use the tools. >> do you think the united states should take a stand in open den dmitri caratic elections in a place like egypt? >> we should set forth a vision and identify and give credibility
was suffering a big deficit next to romney with that. since several weeks ago, probably tied to the convention, those numbers have turned and l of a sudn the democratic d rctth economy has become more popular than the republican brand. >> mourdock who has been a hardliner, he's been trying to embrace the moderate positions claiming he's more open to compromise, claiming he will otso sitd medicare. but this is not the same mourdock who defeated richard lugar in the primary. are richard lugar and others paying their price for the extremism? >> i would add to what sam said, part of the aftermath of 47gate. itouo trgt you're best on the economy when you think you should only be working for half of the people on the economy, right? that's h the comments were perceived. to your question, ed, i want to add, this is not just having a trickledown effect to other senate races. the only shot we have at elecng a new woman governor is acly -- >> it's ticket-wide, no tion. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nationally with the gop. >> keli goff, sam stein. >>>
, independent skills that will allow people to succeed, a trade that works for ameca, deficit reducti smbussic nhan what the president has done. and as we get in the debates it will be critical to show the contrast between governor romney and the president. the good thing is wasserman schultz down played the president's expectations as expected by the democrat but he is the gted ea thobis hoe nav the gift of a positive record to run on. the economy is in the toilet and t current news we have on informed poli is troubling. the administration knew this was a terrorist attack within the first 24ours yet they continue de a movie trailer, put ambassador rice out there being extremely dishonest with the american people. that's troubling. and those troops will come out in the detes. >> alice, we've gone to war with countries saying they were responsible for nerch when they really weren't. i'm talking about iraq. gi theteseit leeway here on figuring out exactly what's what to go with the facts. thursday power panel, thank you. we're going to have the governor to stick around because we're going to be
not the kind of inconsistency that he can afford at thi point given the deficits he faces. >> your thoughts, john. >> well, look, chris, i just think he's in annten tie he bal along. the bottom line on mitt romney is he's proud of his massachusetts health care law. there's part of him that wants to defend it, there's part of him that's always wanted to defend it, and he found himself running in a republican primary where he couldn't defend it forth rightly as ink wt . het woha wand to e twisted himentz up in a lot of knots. i think there's some theoretical way in which you could make a federalist argument but he hasn't made that argument consistently either. he should have stood up and said the individual mandate is a consvative policy. it was inventedt the heritage fodati andmbd conservatives as recently as a decade ago. co-have made the argument for pla health care and said that's what the conservative position was. he didn't have the guts to do that. he's ended up in this bizarre position where he's had to pirouette on this crazy tightrope wherhe says my reut ted law which the core eleme
and others going out and showing themselves as fiscal conservatives. it not only increased the deficit but added $3 billion to the national debt and the budget doesn't balance for 28 years. we talked a lot with the tea party people. they've been in -- talked to us. they're wanting us to come for a debate with mr. cantor. we're trying to work that out now. but, let's face it, there is 15% to 25% that we're not going to agree with with the tea party on social issue. but there are in virginia sensible members of the tea party who say to us, we agree with you on 75%. >> well, that's -- that's -- >> a lot of that is -- >> that's very interesting. we have to leave it there. mudcat saunders. i'm sure we'll be watching this race very carefully there in virginia. thanks for your time. >>> a big win for the fight for voting rights today. why nobody can take that right away. that's next. ♪ [ male announcer ] how do you turn an entrepreneur's dream... ♪ into a scooter that talks to the cloud? ♪ or make 70,000 trades a second... ♪ reach one customer at a time? ♪ how do you help doctors tu
exactly, and in raw numbers, the deficit problem the country has and he said that mitt romney is the better candidate to try to reverse the trend that the united nations government has been on in the past four years. so we'll have to see if he sharpens that attack even more today. but clearly they know they've got some challenges ahead, in new hampshire, of course the battleground state just four electoral votes there. in this tight race four votes could mean the difference between who is president and who is not. they want to fight hard. mitt romney's adopted home state there, if you will. >> right, so he'll be doing that for sure in new hampshire and then in ohio today. okay, thank you very much, ron mott appreciate that. >>> let's get more on the president's surge in the polls. he is increasing his lead in a number of key swing states. he's leading in all nine nbc/"wall street journal"/marist polls taken over the last three weeks. let's talk about what's happening from the gop perspective. because some there are complaining about the polling. they say the pollsters are over
sit in the sidelines in 2012 and a big money deficit would make a difference in a tight presidential race. back in early february, the president reverse a long held position on ss signaling they should pony up and to democrats it was safe to ask for outside money themselves. he teased the decision in an interview with nbc's mattlauer. >> if you ask me would i love to take some of the big money out of politics? i ul rtelgh now partly because of supreme court rulings and a bunch of decisions out there, it is very hard to be able to get your message out without having someresources. >> a few weeks later the reason hind the reversal became aad clear. you want to understand why the president flipped on super pacs, look at ts number. this is president's super pac in january. $58,815.83ai and questions about big donors were meant with defensiveness. even after the president's reversal, super pac fd-raising failed to pick up for the democrats significantlyn partic t official o r c, pitiessa raising just $2 million in february. 2.5 million in march. less than 2 million in april. trailing well
to use that money to reduce the budget deficit. i'm putting it back into medicare and i'm the guy running for president. >> well, what a miserable time he has. all he does is defend himself against paul ryan's budget and he put the guy on the ticket. >> chris, i remember when this happened. when you put ryan on the ticket, a lot of democrats said, okay, it's over, we've got it. and i was skeptical about that when they said it, and i think a lot of us who like to hear intellectual debates about policy said, great, fwring it on, let's have a big debate about the philosophy of government. down in florida they don't care about the fill loss pi. >> all politics a local. >> they want the program, they like the program, don't mess with the program. >> let's go to something really big because i like this guy so much. this is jim webb who is retiring as the senator from virginia. he's a democrat but a different kind of democrat. many people, including me, believe he's eviscerated romney with these words he spoke. remember what romney was saying, there's the takers and the makers out there, includi
the economy has changed. it used to be obama was suffering a big deficit next to romney with that. since several weeks ago, probably tied to the convention, those numbers have turned and all of a sudden the democratic brand with respect to the an rlin brand. e re par >> mourdock who has been a hardliner, he's been trying to embrace the moderate positions claiming he's more open to compromise, ciming he will protect social security and medicare. but this is not the same mourdock who defeetedichard lugar in the primary. are richard lugar and others paying their price for the extremism? >> i would add to what sam said, part of the afrmath of 47%-gate. it's tough to make the argument u're best on the economy when you think you shoul only be infor h t pe onhe economy, right? that's how the comments were percei perceived. to your question, ed, i want to add, this is not just having a trickledown effect to other senate races. the only shot we have at electing a new womanovernors tu - >> i tiet-wide, no question. >> who shouldn't be in a neck and neck race, but is, because of what's going on nat
't believe you have to touch medicare to take care of the deficit or the debt. >> listen, it's a numbers issue right? i'm a numbers guy. used to be 40 years ago that you had two people in america working to pay for every one retiree. now it's basically, you know, one worker paying for 10 to 20 different retirees because we've got this horrific demographic shift, 7500 people turning 60 every day. you're right. the numbers are unsustainable. what was interesting about your chart was this. i'll tell you what. the president is glad the election is only 39 days away. because yesterday kind of quietly, i don't want to get wonky, we had dismal economic data. we referenced it at the top. durable goods was terrible. boeing sold only one aircraft in august. gdp was revised down. 25% of people, i can't remember the source of the poll, basically said they'll slow down spending because of the fiscal cliff issue. things are slowing down because people, smart viewers of "morning joe" and cnbc know that we're going to get the biggest tax hike in history if congress doesn't do something so the economy is
and debt and deficit and vote. i am a reliable vote for the bill. >> theme of the evening, independence good, partisanship bad. >> vote about 50% with my party and 50% with the democratic party and that's a lot different than what professor warren would do to be in lock step. >> when senator brown talks here in massachusetts about how very bipartisan he is and end pent he is he's not saying the same thing when he goes around the country raising money in this senate campaign. >> aliens watching the debate could be forgiven for voting in lock step is a criminal offense. warren accused brown of consistently voting with republican leadership to block jobs bills put forward by the president while brown said compromise was a foreign concept to the ultraliberal warren. with all political events this evening not without its gaffes. >> can you name some republicans in the senate today that you are able to work with on big, substantive issues that the country face this is. >> probably richard lugar would come to mind. >> he's not going to be there. >> who else could you name, senator? >> that is
would tackle the deficit? >>> ann romney dishes to ja leno about mitt. >> would you say he is frugal or cheap? >> cheap. >> cheap. really cheap. okay. >> do you want to know what he does when he leave the house? he turns off the h water heat. >>o yo knot hoe w we come back from the house, he forgets he has to turn the hot water heater on, cold shers, they're not that bad. >> indeed. good day. i'm andrea mitchell live in new york. dueling messages in ohio where in a few moments both ndides wi beelin ch appearing only about 100 miles from each other but with sharply different messages. as president obama widens his ohio lead in the latest polls, joining me for our daily fix, chris cizilla, managing editor of post politics.com and "whington po" pic reporter karen tu multi. chris, first talk about the polls. how significant is it the double-digit lead in some polls now, cbs/"new york times" poll the trend first in "the washington post" and our wl street jourl/nbwsols weiso moving fairly steadily into the obama camp? >> i would say the answer to that at the moment is yes. the post on mond
minded, very flinty, cares a great deal about the deficit and taxes, even there he hasn't gained any advantage, despite being associated with the ryan plan. >> dante, if governor romney comes out big wednesday, if there's some big, bold new policy introduced at the debate in denver, how does that play? >> it may give romney a second chance. i think romney really needs to have a clear victory next week to throw new hampshire back into the mix. i mean, certainly, there is still some volatility here. no one's saying it's over here in new hampshire, but i think the thing is, new hampshire's behaving just like it did four years ago. nothing in the past four years has changed new hampshire's essential character as this democratic-leaning bellwether. >> last question here, ten seconds. we know that the state has been inundated with tv and web ads, obviously. talk to me really quickly about the ground game for governor romney. how would you characterize the governor's ground game in new hampshire? >> you know, it's somewhat -- it compares to obama, although obama got a head start, really, in
debt and the deficit in the abstract but as soon as it starts coming to specifics and you start talking about what's really going to cut, it doesn't play very well. >> i think this is interesting in part because the republican strategy on medicare was a little more complicated than just vote for this. >> it was much more complicated. very tangled. >> what they were trying to do was split it where they were going to say if you're over 55 you're going to keep what you have now. in fact, we're going to spend $700 billion more on medicare over the next ten years. paul ryan instantly reversed the position that he had when he was in congress. it kept the president's medicare cuts. romney will repeal that. ryan says that too. it looked to me like that was working, that they were actually managing to sort of get to the president's left on medicare and attack him and say the president's going to cut your medicare, we're going to protect it. i don't know why it's not still working. >> here's why. so they've decided they're going to pick this fight on medicare. it's a bizarre fight they picked for
can g bk t th t the deficits will get worse and not better. and this is the cycle of decline that europe is facing. >> mark halperin. >> prime minister, i take your point about the medium and longer-term issue. how important from a practical and pshological point of view is it to europe r ica ha alen ahe m to get our fiscal house in order? >> i think it's going to be important that europe and america cooperate to get the world economy moving forward. that's the most important thing. you see, i don'tunderstand, since the rescue of the world economy in 2009, there is rtually cooration beten ama,a, india, europe to get the world economy moving forward. you, america, need to export to the rest of the world. you can't stimulate your economy simply by domestic consumption or public spending or plic investment. you need to sell to the rest of the world. china nee to,ndt needs to sell to europe and america. that's the blasz of a global growth agreement. china concerns more. you probably do a bit more on infrastructure. trade starts to moveforward. people have confidence. and that's
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